I want to start world building...

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
If anyone can point me to the best programs that would be great. I'm looking for someone experienced willing to send me a copy of their favorite programs and their process. By process I mean something simple not a detailed instructions I mean it's just programs I can figure it out on my own and I'm definitely not trying to bother anyone with stupid questions. I just want to get a head start and direct my focus properly instead of being scatter brained and never figuring anything out and wasting my time. I've made maps in the past but they never worked right. For example if someone knew a map program that would automatically place transitions for example the transition from ocean to cliff side to land... I would be all ears and love those instructions. In return for helping me get started I could do something for you like some custom graphic arts or something idk.
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
Ok I'm going with uo landscaper, uo architect, and centred+. Hunkering down and dedicating my free time to this project. Thank you golfin for the advice. I will update this thread with any major progress that I make and explain how I did it. First on my list of to do is to get the transitions to work automatically.
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I actually got transitions to work. This has made my year... All I'm going to do for the next few days is test out every single transition available to me... and at different heights... basically I want to create a data sheet with all of the possibilities available then draw my map with transitions at the top of the priorities. Thanks golfin I woulda never tried it again if no one said anything.
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ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
so far so happy... it seems everything needs to be at the same altitude to transition... well... at least when it comes to transitioning with shallow water. i think i remember reading it needs at least 2 tiles of same altitude to transition... After that I can simply go into centred+ and alter the altitudes to look better! im so excited that this is actually working it was never this easy in the past... maybe its because I'm actually using the correct client 7.0.20.0 I will upload the files I'm using once I get everything together to make it easy for people to start making maps.

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Erad

Rookie
I wish you nothing but the best of luck I always wanted to try my hand at a custom world but i just never understood the fundamentals of any of those map makers. There's not many video tutorials based around UO map Making.
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
I am now to the point of wanting to give up after about 20 attempts to figure out why the altitude map is no longer working... 1609218686726.png
I had drawn out a rather elaborate map (which I do every time I try this) only to discover this happening... The different altitudes are not lining up! (rock, water, land, other) I just tried a basic test only to find that the program has stopped working correctly and I'm not sure what caused it. Everything is set to "0" altitude in the altitude map.
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I just noticed that when I tried to apply altitude colors into the terrain.bmp the color was much less vibrant. Any ideas why? Any ways around this? So I tried pasting the terrain into the altitude but it came out weird here are pics.
1609219843643.pngThe pink turned into that dull grey purple... this is the cause for the crazy errors. This is when I try to use altitude colors in the terrain.bmp (which I was then saving as altitude.bmp in order to simplify the process)
1609219932333.pngThen when I try to paste the terrain into the altitude this happens so it's literally impossible to simply fill the different colors with the correct altitude color.

So with this all said I have no idea what I'm doing wrong here... It all worked perfectly this morning I was able to do everything I said above without issue but I must have done something. I will research it and see what I find.
 
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golfin

Rookie
UO Landscaper uses two images to generate the map. The first Terrain.bmp where you paint what the map should look like and Altitude.bmp where you are solving the heights. You can't paint heights in Terrain.bmp.

I like working with UO Landscaper very much, I consider it a better program than DragonMod. I can customize it as I like, add material, statics and so on. One has to play with this program and get acquainted with its structure and functionality, and when it comes down to it and understands it, it will be an excellent companion. I especially appreciate the export to xml files from RunUO or ServUO, and then when generating the map, Landscaper can build these exported statics straight away. As I say, it is necessary to get acquainted with this program first and understand it.
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
I tried cutting and pasting the terrain into the altitude using rgb mode and it pastes fine then i switched back to indexed mode and loaded the altitude swashes and that also worked great was able to put in the correct colors and save it as 8bit... BUT as friggin usual... Something is not right... this time the water is too high... The water will not go up or down upon trying to correct the Hight by changing it from 0 to -20 it just stays there. 1609222729512.png
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I know golfin i just want to put the terrain map into the altitude map in order to make them identical as that is important right? How do you do it then?
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
I finally figured it out! Thanks golfin again i think you helped me as I thought more deeply towards the program and dug deeper into the files.

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As you can see I have proper transitions.

So the process is simple simply create the blank map files with uo landscaper then use the included swatches to draw the colors of the map. Once you have the map terrain drawn out you need to save this file as the altitude map BUT YOU NEED TO USE THE ALTITUDE "COLOR TABLE" to get the altitude color table simply open the altitude bmp and start at the image tab (Again this is photoshop) Image>>Mode>>Color Table now safe the altitude color table. Go back to terrain and load the altitude color table. The image will assume some different colors just use your memory to remember what it is then fill each part with the correct color from your altitude swatches. Save as altitude.bmp and create the .MUL files! Load them to the uo client overwriting the old ones. Start your server and enter the game. BOOM it works...
 
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golfin

Rookie
Generate Altitude.bmp using the AltImagePrep.exe subroutine. And only then edit it in adobe photoshop.

See also other UO Landscaper subroutines. In order for them to work, I need to have the game stored in the registry as a UO Gold version in windows. In the description of the program there is a link to download, or here on the forum in my resources.
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
Generate Altitude.bmp using the AltImagePrep.exe subroutine. And only then edit it in adobe photoshop.
Nice ill give that a try when i get home. Sounds like it does what i did manually. Hopfully i can start a real map today. I found an excellent post that i plan to use later helping me decide transitions and other choices. I want to to make a fun map to start with a couple of big dungeons. Ill post a link to that post when ii update my progress...
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
So ive got my first map templat drawn out. Ill work on it when i get home... i feel safe actually putting in the effort now that i know how to make sure the altitude.bmp is properly formatted. Can't wait... what do you guys think of my insanely poor drawings haha.
 

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ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
SO SOMETIMES THAT ALTIMAGEPREP EXE WORKS AND SOMETIMES IT DONT SO KNOWINTG caps... knowing how to do it manually is very good. I was sitting in class today already knowing everything so im just sitting there... I thought of an insane idea... to make the game insane hard... start out in a noob city but have a long ways to go before you get to the real game world... lo o o o l ....... instead of a moon gate its a 2 hours+ maze filled with mobs. hahahaha1609364510322.png
 

golfin

Rookie
Hehe, that's crazy - but I really like the picture of the continent. You have interestingly made fractals.

Are you under the nickname Bนttͥᴍeͣiͫຮter ter on the discord?
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
yes that is me... the continent was generated from that one website... i generated over and over til i found a good one. also ive filled that empty space with dungeons also generated... the mazes are also generated... Still a lot of work to do before I can generate the altitude map. Then I'll try different ground tiles in the dungeons to change them up and then ill move to centred. Im really trying to put this out fast without sacrificing quality. 1609423220087.png
 
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OuroOuro

Citizen
yes that is me... the continent was generated from that one website... i generated over and over til i found a good one. also ive filled that empty space with dungeons also generated... the mazes are also generated... Still a lot of work to do before I can generate the altitude map. Then I'll try different ground tiles in the dungeons to change them up and then ill move to centred. Im really trying to put this out fast without sacrificing quality. View attachment 17375
How's the project going?
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
Its going great i finished that map i drew on paper its live now. Flawless in my opinion except for the swamp dungeon the water tiles aren’t the right height and theres no way im going to do that one over haha. Pretty much figured everything out and more thanks to golfin. Just modified the altitude xml to make smooth map in preparation to make my next map. I shared it in resources. Next map im planning to model around balmora from morrowwind as it was my favorite map and quite a large city with many buildings. Planning to add custom art to using fiddler to make it look like balmora too. For now im just going to paint out the map using a height map i found (the main point of the smooth map modification). And draw in the city with the sand stone tiles as i plan to replace with new art anyways. Should be a fun way to pass the time off from truck driving.
 

ParanoiaPhD

Citizen
So its like it but not exact replica this is uo after all. The only city im doing is balmora the rest of the map will be player housing and resource farming. Maybe a few murder hovels. Just like in morrowind balmora had citizen houses im thinking about letting active players live in them. Should be fun. The other side of the city had npc vendors with stealables and containers that would respawn random ingredients. Its going to be a fun city to build the map will be fun to but the hard part is the ccity i really want to make it stunning.